Perry Bible Fellowship Discussion

[14:20] Alison Way: new one--very funny
[14:20] Alison Way: even posted it outside my office
[14:20] jimmyd: awesome
[14:21] Alison Way: though he spelled orangutan wrong
[14:21] Alison Way: point that out in our blog
[14:21] jimmyd: ok
[14:21] Alison Way: of course, i noticed immediately
[14:21] Alison Way: i hate it when people say it with a "g" sound on the end
[14:21] jimmyd: perhaps it's intentional-- the PAPER in the comic got it wrong
[14:22] Alison Way: one of my pet peeves
[14:22] Alison Way: i always correct them
[14:22] jimmyd: a commentary on the LIBERAL PRESS
[14:22] jimmyd: do you correct people when they put a p sound in "hamster" and "chomsky?
[14:22] Alison Way: too soon, jim. too soon.
[14:22] Alison Way: YES I DO
[14:23] jimmyd: I have to go teach my class
[14:23] jimmyd: bye
[14:23] Alison Way: and when they say jew-lery
[14:23] Alison Way: k
[14:23] Alison Way: bye
[14:23] jimmyd: "skip bip" @#@#@#@#
[14:23] Alison Way: LOVE IT
[14:23] Alison Way: @#@#@#
[16:18] jimmyd: "Nature's modern master" it says
[16:18] Alison Way: i know
[16:19] Alison Way: he's like the orangutan "painter of light"
[16:19] Alison Way: what's that guy's name?
[16:19] jimmyd: another funny thing about it is that the thing we see in the first frame, which makes him look so good, is an ad in the paper for the review in the second frame
[16:19] jimmyd: Monet?
[16:20] Alison Way: no--the one who does those twee, cozy cottages in the snow, etc. really tacky
[16:20] jimmyd: Here we come now singing Monet Monet
[16:20] jimmyd: don't know
[16:20] Alison Way: i like how the orang actually posed for the photo and put on this very specific, supposed-to-be-appealing expression
[16:21] jimmyd: with some of the fir made into a mustache
[16:22] Alison Way: yes
[16:22] Alison Way: his name is thomas kinkade
[16:22] Alison Way: look him up
[16:22] Alison Way: so schlocky
[16:22] Alison Way: you'll recognize the crap
[16:23] Alison Way: he even makes, like, lamps and bible and tea cozies, etc.
[16:23] Alison Way: he's a "landscape impressionist"
[16:23] Alison Way: wtf does that mean?
[16:23] Alison Way: so am i
[16:23] Alison Way: sometimes i say, "it's really hilly over there"
[16:23] jimmyd: not my kind of stuff, but I can see why people lik eit
[16:24] Alison Way: that my impression of the lanscape
[16:24] Alison Way: @#@#@
[16:24] Alison Way: yeah, so can i. fascinating
[16:25] Alison Way: his worlds look cozy, safe, and enchanting
[16:25] jimmyd: inviting
[16:26] Alison Way: yeah, like--let's have SECOND BREAFAST in that wee, twee cottage

Daniel is a good friend of mine. Alison has been two busy to contribute lately, so to tide you over I'll put in this commentary from Daniel Saunders:

Check out the latest to see who one of his cartoony heroes is. Now I think this isdefinitely the best comic strip currenlty running, much as I love Bob theAngry Flower (definitely read http://www.angryflower.com/crownm.html). It's not just that he's the most artistically ambitious cartoonist to everlive - check out the chinese one - but I think he may be the Kafka of ourage, in the way he takes the anxieties and feelings of horror andvulnerability and unfairness a sensitive person experiences and blows themup to absurd magnitudes, and so makes them funny, and makes us all feelbetter. In particular the fear of being utterly destroyed by the universefor completely careless reasons - both he and Kafka wrote animal storieswhere the animals live under threat of being invaded and utterly wiped outby vastly more powerful beings.(http://70.86.201.113/imageserv2/temporary/PBF094ADTheChaosGrid.htmlhttp://70.86.201.113/imageserv2/temporary/PBF080ADAgronox.html)

He takes the common dark feeling, that sometimes bad events pile ontop of a particular person in a
completely unbalanced way, and turns it into
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that our private dreams may be totally absurd
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not to mention the whole can of worms of our messed up sexuality
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And then of course there''s
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Irony is the standard mode here, that last-panel kick in the teeth, but it's only to help us cope with the less over-the-top but still painfulironies of living. It's sick alright, but healthy sick.

[12:25] Alison Way: can't im much--so busy--but i totall don't get new perry: PRANK DRAGON
[12:25] Alison Way: ????
[12:25] Alison Way: truly baffled
[12:25] jimmyddavies: let me check it
[12:26] Alison Way: my one idea: he made a soup so big, he flooded the whole countryside???
[12:26] Alison Way: love the diff style though
[12:26] jimmyddavies: no, I get it
[12:26] jimmyddavies: they are dipping his hand in warm water to make him pee
[12:26] jimmyddavies: and it floods the village
[12:26] Alison Way: i like that he's willing to change and not just stick to one thing, but rather, do takes on classic comic styles
[12:27] Alison Way: OH NOW I SEE
[12:27] Alison Way: cute
[12:27] Alison Way: should've made hand clearer though in both frames
[12:27] jimmyddavies: I wonder if the men in yellow were doing it to enemies, in blue
[12:28] Alison Way: ah mayhaps, jim-san
[12:28] jimmyddavies: IT SO CONFUSING!
[12:28] Alison Way: I LIKE USA SHOPS
[12:28] Alison Way: ok back to work
[12:28] Alison Way: talk again in a bit
[12:28] jimmyddavies: Is it called "prank dragon" in yours?
[12:28] Alison Way: yes
[12:28] Alison Way: and yours?
[12:28] jimmyddavies: mine just has some chinese characters
[12:28] jimmyddavies: none of which mean "dragon"
[12:29] Alison Way: no the title on archive
[12:29] jimmyddavies: that's where I'm looking
[12:30] jimmyddavies: maybe the same thing gets interpreted differently on different browsers. I'm using Mozilla
[12:33] Alison Way: fascinating, if true
[12:33] Alison Way: ok
[12:33] Alison Way: later

[13:21] Alison Way: CASTLE HONEYCOMB
[13:22] jimmyddavies: the bee has multifaceted eyes, but apparently only a few of them need corrective vision
[13:22] Alison Way: HE WIELDS THE CHAOS GRID
[13:22] Alison Way: so gamer
[13:22] Alison Way: yeah the eyes @#@#@
[13:23] jimmyddavies: I see what you're saying
[13:23] jimmyddavies: the first 2 frames are meant to make it look like some fantasy world
[13:23] jimmyddavies: the font, the costumes, the weaponry, the term "chaos grid"
[13:23] jimmyddavies: and then it's just some rednecks fucking around
[13:23] Alison Way: yeah
[13:23] Alison Way: @#@
[13:24] jimmyddavies: shirtless with suspenders. Classy
[13:24] Alison Way: and the wife beater and ball cap on the other dude
[13:24] jimmyddavies: ugly fucker
[13:24] Alison Way: yeah
[13:24] Alison Way: like the aimless animal cruelty of true ignorance
[13:25] jimmyddavies: it could have been anyone-- like his orb-headed people
[13:25] jimmyddavies: do you think the fact that they are rednecks makes it funnier?
[13:25] Alison Way: yes but i think he wanted to underscore the ignorance and hate of people who just kill animals for kicks
[13:25] jimmyddavies: Oh, and "Sir Dronicus" sounds like "drone"
[13:25] Alison Way: yep
[13:26] jimmyddavies: the dying bees in frame 3 are unarmed!!
[13:26] jimmyddavies: Dronicus has shoulder protectors
[13:26] Alison Way: and a helmet
[13:27] Alison Way: see what i mean about underscoring the ignorance?
[13:27] jimmyddavies: I think so
[13:27] jimmyddavies: the premise is "the poor are ignorant and cruel."
[13:27] Alison Way: the one guy doing the act if especially UGLY
[13:27] Alison Way: IS
[13:28] jimmyddavies: if you and I ever play tennis, let's call our rackets "chaos grids."
[13:28] Alison Way: and greed is bad, as, once again, jim thinks like a machine and misses the point
[13:29] jimmyddavies: yeah, put this together with "The Perfect Storm" and you get "The poor are ignorant, cruel, and greedy."
[13:30] Alison Way: THAT'S HOW ROBOT JIM SEES IT
[13:30] Alison Way: @#@#@#
[13:30] jimmyddavies: robot jim rich!!
[13:30] Alison Way: did u/do u love war games?
[13:30] jimmyddavies: the movie?
[13:30] jimmyddavies: no
[13:30] jimmyddavies: or do you mean war games like stratego?
[13:30] Alison Way: YES RICH, AND THAT'S PART OF WHY HE FEELS FREE TO MAKE THESE RASH JUDGMENTS!!!! @#@#@@#
[13:31] jimmyddavies: I'm like Heinz: thick and rich
[13:31] Alison Way: AND HARD TO GET OUT OF THE BOTTLE
[13:31] Alison Way: @#@#@#
[13:31] Alison Way: saw that movie again this weekend; thought u would love
[13:32] Alison Way: the comp stuff is so ANCIENT now
[13:32] jimmyddavies: I haven't seen it since HBO as a kid
[13:32] Alison Way: SPEAKING OF WHICH
[13:32] Alison Way: THEY CHANGED THE "BEGINNING" HBO THEME!!!
[13:32] jimmyddavies: isn't that the one where the AI figures out the futility of world war by playing tic tac toe with itself?
[13:32] Alison Way: NOOOOOOOOO
[13:32] Alison Way: THEY "UPDATED" IT
[13:32] jimmyddavies: they changed that years ago, I thought
[13:32] Alison Way: so sad
[13:32] Alison Way: i felt dismal
[13:32] Alison Way: haven't had hbo in years
[13:33] Alison Way: yes tic tac toe
[13:33] Alison Way: JOSHUA AND "THE WHOPPER"

[11:54] Alison Way: LOVE cave explorere
[11:54] *** Auto-response sent to Alison Way: I am currently away from the computer.
[11:54] Alison Way: if you and i had kids, we would do that to them and cackle
[11:54] Alison Way: CHAOS GRID
[11:54] Alison Way: love the fleeing redneck in the background
[11:54] Alison Way: last frame
[13:06] jimmyddavies: cave explorer
[13:06] *** Auto-response from Alison Way: I am currently away from the computer.
[13:06] jimmyddavies: I love how the father somehow got the kid to put on his school backpack for the cave exploration
[13:07] Alison Way: yes
[13:07] jimmyddavies: and the child's black tears
[13:07] Alison Way: and the kid weeping whjile the driver and dad wave to each other conspiratorailly
[13:08] jimmyddavies: and how the bus driver waves without looking-- makes it look very routine
[13:09] Alison Way: yeah like this is how they get him to go to school EVERY DAY
[13:09] jimmyddavies: @#@#
[13:09] jimmyddavies: maybe he's a memento kid
[13:09] jimmyddavies: which would make the whole reason for going to school just a big babysitting exercise for dad
[13:10] Alison Way: HM
[13:11] jimmyddavies: you know about HM?!
[13:11] jimmyddavies: I'm impressed!
[13:11] Alison Way: huh?
[13:12] jimmyddavies: HM is the famous guy who has the neuro disorder that the guy in memento had
[13:12] jimmyddavies: (you did know that, right?)
[13:12] Alison Way: no i did not
[13:12] Alison Way: weird coincidence
[13:12] jimmyddavies: then what did you mean by HM, boomnut??
[13:13] Alison Way: like, hmmm
[13:13] jimmyddavies: oh! :)

[13:13] jimmyddavies: ok, I'm not sure I get "Giant Jim"
[13:14] jimmyddavies: is it just a weird situation?
[13:15] Alison Way: he was right; she WAS CHEATING with the baker
[13:15] Alison Way: giant him cried and grieved and drowned both with his massive tears
[13:15] jimmyddavies: yes
[13:16] Alison Way: but i DONT' GET the surrounding loaves of bread
[13:16] Alison Way: unless i guess they were cheating at the bakery?
[13:16] jimmyddavies: it's a strange one
[13:16] jimmyddavies: yes, cheating at the bakery
[13:16] jimmyddavies: I think
[13:16] Alison Way: i love the floating bodies
[13:16] jimmyddavies: I like floating bodies in general
[13:16] Alison Way: but they were fucking on a sheet near the bread?
[13:17] jimmyddavies: Giant Jim is married to a woman about the size of 2 of his teaers
[13:17] Alison Way: it's a little vague
[13:17] jimmyddavies: it's a rustic setting
[13:17] jimmyddavies: probably the baker lived at the bakery
[13:17] Alison Way: the appearance of buns suggests maybe the baker really was just frosting her buns, literally
[13:17] jimmyddavies: when the place flooded, everything got mixed up
[13:17] jimmyddavies: but she's naked
[13:17] Alison Way: yeah
[13:18] Alison Way: and still half-wrapped in a sheet
[13:18] Alison Way: OH
[13:18] jimmyddavies: I like how the birds are perched on his shoulder
[13:18] Alison Way: AND THERE'S A FLOATING CONDOM PACKET!!
[13:18] Alison Way: see it
[13:18] Alison Way: ?
[13:18] jimmyddavies: not yet...
[13:18] Alison Way: middle right corner
[13:18] jimmyddavies: oh yeah!
[13:18] jimmyddavies: @#@#@
[13:18] Alison Way: @#@#@#@#@#@#
[13:19] Alison Way: so it's rustic
[13:19] jimmyddavies: you can see the littlebit of the baker's penis
[13:19] Alison Way: but packaged prophylactics are available. . . .
[13:19] jimmyddavies: @#@#
[13:19] jimmyddavies: I also like how Giant Jim is really walking with a purpose in teh first frame
[13:19] Alison Way: yes and it's limp in the water and sad looking
[13:19] jimmyddavies: I wonder if the condom's still on it
[13:20] Alison Way: no the condom is pink--in the package
[13:20] jimmyddavies: maybe Jim caught them in foreplay
[13:20] Alison Way: i love how they just look so . . . DEAD . . . and DROWNED
[13:21] jimmyddavies: Jim must have had that big cap made especially for him.
[13:21] Alison Way: and the cracks on the wall where he broke the house open
[13:21] jimmyddavies: :)

Editor's note: the string "@#@#@#" means laughter, as in "aHaHaHa," not swearing.

lilshametongue (12:33:32 PM): OH THE CLOWN-MANITY
jimmyddavies (12:33:36 PM): @#@#
jimmyddavies (12:33:45 PM): so first-- what exactly is a rodeo clown?
lilshametongue (12:34:05 PM): they distract the bull when the rider falls so he can get to safety
lilshametongue (12:34:11 PM): is my understanding
jimmyddavies (12:34:17 PM): makes sense
jimmyddavies (12:34:24 PM): we all know how BULLS LOVE CLOWN
jimmyddavies (12:34:38 PM): like chameleons like golashes
lilshametongue (12:34:41 PM): makes sense--IN THE CONTEXT OF THE LAMEST OF SPORTS
lilshametongue (12:34:55 PM): LET'S TEASE A GIANT, DUMB, ANGRY ANIMAL IN AN ARENA FOR KICKS
jimmyddavies (12:35:11 PM): and play darts instead?/
lilshametongue (12:35:23 PM): the clown makeup and prantics are for the rodeo audience, DIMWIT
jimmyddavies (12:36:01 PM): you know how bars have an industry night?
jimmyddavies (12:36:07 PM): maybe it was industry day at the rodeo
jimmyddavies (12:36:17 PM): so clowns from all over went to watch
jimmyddavies (12:36:21 PM): and nobody worked
jimmyddavies (12:39:11 PM): notice the baby clown in the audience
lilshametongue (12:48:06 PM): @#@#@#@
jimmyddavies (12:48:32 PM): not only are these people clowns, they arrived in full clown regalia.
lilshametongue (12:49:39 PM): yes
lilshametongue (12:49:43 PM): as revenge
jimmyddavies (12:49:52 PM): it's probably revenge

lilshametongue: Jim Davies.
jimmyddavies: It's you.
lilshametongue: yeah
jimmyddavies: I think "The Other Girls," while not hilarious, has got two classic PBF elements.
lilshametongue: kinda busy today
lilshametongue: and have to get lunch
lilshametongue: let me read it now
lilshametongue: so she's a vampire, right?
jimmyddavies: yes
lilshametongue: eh.
jimmyddavies: I like the sad made-up face in the mirror at the end.
lilshametongue: seems like she should have no reflection whatsoever
jimmyddavies: he had to tweak the vampire myth a bit
lilshametongue: that's how it always is in horror flicks
jimmyddavies: so the makeup would show up
jimmyddavies: yes
lilshametongue: yeah i guess so
jimmyddavies: she'd have to be naked to be invisible in the PBF vampire world
lilshametongue: makes her more like the invisible girl
jimmyddavies: with no makeup
lilshametongue: i like the mother's hair in the first frame
jimmyddavies: yes. Invisible girl. This comic is basically a rip off of the fantastic four.
jimmyddavies: yes
lilshametongue: sigh.
jimmyddavies: art deco style drawing. (right?)
lilshametongue: yeah
lilshametongue: that's what i likelilshametongue: and pre-raphaelite
lilshametongue: ok
lilshametongue: getting lunch
lilshametongue: haven't eaten today
jimmyddavies: the book in the last frame looks like it's called "JEMUK"

[15:04] Alison Way: cupid mistake not very good on pbf
[15:04] *** Auto-response sent to Alison Way: I am currently away from the computer.
[15:04] Alison Way: took a while to get
[15:05] Alison Way: though i like the orgy end scene
[15:47] jimmyddavies: hi
[15:47] *** Auto-response from Alison Way: I am currently away from the computer.
[15:48] jimmyddavies: I like it
[15:49] jimmyddavies: I like how the clouds are heart-shaped
[15:49] jimmyddavies: and the orgy is red-tinted because of the heart cloud-cover
[16:01] Alison Way: yeah. eh.
[16:01] Alison Way: not his best
[16:01] jimmyddavies: isn't it cute how he pulls his cloud over his head to protect himself?
[16:02] Alison Way: wasn't that impressed, to be honest
[16:02] jimmyddavies: I'M GATHERING THAT
[16:02] jimmyddavies: @#@#
[16:02] Alison Way: (water)
[16:02] Alison Way: YOU CAN'T FORCE A BLOG, JIM.
[16:02] jimmyddavies: the glass of water won't show up on the blog, by the way.
[16:03] Alison Way: HOW ABOUT: isgh.
[16:03] Alison Way: sigh.
[16:03] jimmyddavies: that should read